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Employment Scam Alert

ScamBy Anthony J.

If someone suggests that you have to pay for any part of the employment process, I would suggest you withdraw your application post haste:

Zonya Reed found the ad for a postal service job in the Gainesville Suna little over a week ago. She called the 800 number listed and theytold her she needed a study guide, costing about 100 dollars, to takean employment test. She gave her info, but a few days later the guidestill hadn't arrived and the 800 number was disconnected.

The Postal Service says they do have an employment test but, "theUnited States Postal Service would never charge for a test, anemployment test," said Jason Knott, a United States Postal Servicerepresentative.

They give them out for free but muchfurther along in the application process and would never ask forbanking information as a first step. They say these are policies theaverage job applicant may not know.

Reedwas able to cancel her account before any charges were made to it, butshe's learned her lesson. If someone wants your information know thesource, even if it is in the want ads.

Just a heads up. Be careful out there job seekers.

steve
Thu, 04/13/2006 - 7:45pm

These FEE BASED RECRUITING companies are a waste of time.

I was contacted by a company called Chandler Hill based in Houston,TX. They had me come in and meet with one of their reps. She was telling me about how they have a huge database of clients and can place me with the appropriate company. She also said that they would follow me throughout my career and guide me. If a company tells you they are DIFFERENT than the typical recruiting companies that probably means they are fee based. Anyway, I wasted two days worth of my time to find out they were going to charge ME! They wanted my spouse involved so that we can make my career desicion TOGETHER. What a crock...just find me a job...their whole thing is that they FIND YOU A CAREER. Luckily I was fortunate enough to meet a poor soul in the waiting room who bought into this crap. He said he was assigned HOMEWORK by this company and had to prep for a COMMERCIAL that Chandler Hill would present to their clients. Are you kidding me! Who has time to make a commercial!? And if you are seeding a job, who wants to pay for the service?! Most recuiters have no need to see you face to face so becareful! I was recently contacted by another company called TCMI.

Once the rep had asked me to come in for an interview I immediatley asked if they were a FEE BASED recruiter. She replied YES. I said no thank you and hung up. Becareful out there. Your time is precious!

wondering lady
Fri, 09/08/2006 - 4:12am

Has anyone heard anything about an it consulting company called srgamerica located in iselin NJ.

They ask you for a check for 5000 and they say they won't cash it unless you don't break the contract.

Fri, 09/08/2006 - 4:09pm

I haven't heard of them but my gut reaction is not to give a check to anyone. If you break the contract they can always withold your pay.

Fri, 09/08/2006 - 4:33pm

Maybe it is all in the the way the company does business.

I know theladders charges up front money to candidates in return for good information about companies who are looking to hire people, some of which are looking for a new job and some who do not. In that case, it makes sense that the payment is for information not readily availabe for free. I know someone using the ladders who hires 5 candidates a month.

Maybe the secret is not to promise anything other than what you can deliver 100% of the time. Finding someone a job is maybe one of those things

RP
Wed, 09/13/2006 - 1:43am

THANK GOD FOR THIS SECTION. I was contacted by Chandler Hill earlier today and thought I'd research them a little.

After some of the comments I've read tonight, it's no wonder they don't advertise themselves as a fee-based company even on their web site.

Anonymous
Fri, 01/19/2007 - 2:58pm

TCMI!!!??? A SCAM?!

Geez....I just had an interview with TCMI yesterday...I filled out that entire 12 page questionaire...and it's a scam?? How do they pull it off?

Joni Knapps
Sun, 09/17/2006 - 6:57pm

I was extremely upset after I was took my time to drive in town to meet with a Carol Garret with Chandler Hill. I was contacted to come in and meet with her for an interview. I really didn't know anything about the company, but I thought what the heck.

When I arrived at their office, Carol was sitting up front and not very friendly at all. I handed her my resume and she then brought me back to her office. I asked her what type of business this was, and she explained that it was a recruiting firm, there was fee, and was I willing to pay a fee?

I was a little stunned, because having been in the HR field for over 7 years I had never heard of this company and I know VERY WELL that you shouldn't ever have to pay for this type service. All the proof I needed was when I answered that I would like to go home and do a little research (a very valid response)and she IMMEDIATLEY stood up and handed me her card and asked for me to contact her when I was ready to pay a fee. She hadn't even gone over their services and she was already shooing me out the door until I'd cough up dough????!! I was amazed at her tactlessness... she didn't even go over ANYTHING in my resume that I handed her. Why would she even expect me to ever call her back when it was obvious that she wasn't there to help me at all... just there to make money. GEEZ.. a GOOD salesperson would have at least tried to have not been so obvious!!! The the only obvious thing that I got from her was that:

1. She could care less about finding me a job, she was ONLY interested in my money.

2. Whatever I was going out to research would tell me that I wasn't going to want to go back... and she knew it.

When I left I rode down the elevator with someone else that was leaving their offices. I warned him about what was going on there and he then told me about the huge fee that they were trying to convince him to pay. PLEASE, PLEASE stay away from scams like this... if you find a good & reputable recruiter he/she will see your merits and will used their connections to get you in. Don't depend on a rude salesperson that is just waiting to scam you and take advantage of your current unemployment situation.

Oh yeah, and driving home in rush hour traffic was the icing on the cake. I drove all that way to be practically thrown out into Houston traffic. Wow, people like this don't come as selfish & greedy like this... I put their morals up there with tow truck drivers!!!

P Destain
Tue, 11/07/2006 - 10:48pm

I got the same experience than Joni Kapps. Chandler-Hill are just trying to get your money.They contacted me after I put my resume on monster. Very secret.... asking me to fill out their questionnaire. Trying to make their reputation by being different from recruiters, giving your the feeling that you were picked out of thousands. He didnt have a copy of my resume, didnt know why I was there and I spent 2 hours of my life trying to get downtown Dallas for a 9 oclock appointment. Nothing good. STAY AWAY from scam like this. All they want is ....your money.

Anonymous
Wed, 10/25/2006 - 5:18am

My long ago past LEARNING experience was that the "fee" was based on 33% of the agreed upon hired yearly salary and is expected to be PAID IN FULL up before leaving and the other hook is that they have "financing available", probably at a 24% APR. Just for a moment think of what you will be paying for the going rate of your employment goal. This all means that unless you have very deep pockets of cash it is better to stay with a recruiter that is paid by its companies it represents instead of the other way.

N Thompson
Fri, 10/13/2006 - 8:47pm

I just got back from my first visit with TCMI. The recruiter was very personable and nice. We did discuss the content of my resume in some depth. I was given homework to do, about 12 pages of multiple choice and essay questions, some similar to psychology tests I have taken. Even my wife had to fill out a 1 page questionaire.

The recruiter said there would be a fee but declined to discuss it immediately. I have been warned about these scams before but so far, I have no reason to suspect their intentions. Maybe when they give me the bill, I will change my mind.

Anyone out there go through TCMI all the way for the whole 18 months contract??

Anonymous
Tue, 11/21/2006 - 3:36am

Great advice from some of the previous postings. I was not as lucky since I did pay the fee. Ouch! I am embarrassed to say how much. I bought into the sales pitch when they told me they have a huge network that I would have access to. It was said that they would research open positions fitting my qualifications & salary range. Of course, they also told me I was underpaid in the past & they could help me find a position that would be double my past income. Be careful, none of this materialized. They really can't do all they promise. I was a true sucker...

Sun, 01/21/2007 - 8:03pm

Employment Scams come in So many forms, and one of the biggest and probably the worst I have ever seen is in the following article where "Those who responded to a job listing for a marketing manager position were asked to fill out this form. The data was actually stolen by an ID thief."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3078533/
Online job listing an ID theft scam
‘Background check’ used to steal full slate of personal info

Karen Mattonen C.A.C, C.S.P
Recruiting Standards Resources
TEL: 858-668-3111
Email: contact@recruitingstandardsresources.com
Web: www.recruitingstandardsresources.com
Recruiting Standards Resources (RSR) is your training specialist.

Sun, 01/21/2007 - 4:13am

This is a huge problem on Craigslist! These jobs are usually under the title of "data entry" offering compensation of $400-$500 per week. If you respond to one of those ads, you will get a response asking you to send $5 to a paypal account. JOB SEEKERS DO NOT HAVE TO PAY TO WANT TO WORK FOR ANY COMPANY!!

Anonymous
Tue, 04/17/2007 - 9:54pm

I used Chandler Hill and found that it is nothing but a lot of mediocre canned material that results in nothing more than the "client" making cold calls. This organization has no leads. The comments posted on 11/7/2006 and 11/21/2006 are entirely correct.

Richard
Sat, 08/11/2007 - 4:03am

I am so glad I read this!
I just had my first appointment with Chandler Hill in Phoenix. I was so excited after the meeting thinking I was going to land a dream job. It's funny, the guy who mentioned that there were no personal items in the office was right!!

What a drag...Shame on these people.

cpjohnson
Wed, 06/13/2007 - 9:15pm

I went to TCMI last year. What a scam! They made it sound like finding me a job was going to be so quick and easy, 2 mos. tops. I did consider paying for this service with no guarantees, no promise of a job and where I'd end up doing all the legwork. Then I came to my senses.

FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS+ is a LOT to ask when they offer nothing in return. They prey on your vulnerability. I'd like to hear from more folks like "A Happy Customer". I assume you got some fantastic position. Unfortunately, I don't hear a lot of people defending these companies.

After paying those outrageous fees there are those who are fortunate enough to get some of their money back when it doesn't work out but they have to sign a confidentiality agreement. That helps keep these companies in business.

Anonymous
Wed, 05/16/2007 - 2:53pm

First let me say, everyone must make their own decisions based on THEIR OWN circumstances. Let me tell you more about what I learned about Chandler Hill.

They teach you to fish rather than feed you fish. They teach you how to network, cold call, how to open doors to companies where you would like to be employed. They manicure your interviewing skills with some very intricate interview questions. They groom you to be a cut above your competition.

Yes, they help you land in a career, not just another J-O-B that you will want to leave again in 2-5 years.

They also help you get a substantial starting rate that compensates for the fee you are charged. You also have privy to their database - which is very elaborate - to find companies and they are available to you - for whatever job related reason for three years. Stiff-arm a discount if you must.

It is just a different way of doing business and it has worked for many in the Houston area. Their recruiters will write or assist in writing your negotiations - which, they insist you do to get the best salary. Otherwise, you short change yourself!

That's my two cents.

Signed,

A Happy Customer

Anonymous
Mon, 07/02/2007 - 4:56pm

Have to agree with the the above posts re: Chandler Hill.
My husband was laid off and we were so excited when they called to say they had several leads that they had in mind for him.

We kinda had a bad feeling about it b/c of a similar experience in NC with a company called Voyager,but, thinking they may just have a position, we figured he would give it a shot and knew not to EVER hand over any money to someone that says they will find employment for anyone.

He drove about an hour to wait for the guy to show up (he was late). Then,he had the nerve to tell my husband that his resume was what they call in the business "an obiturary" (Which is a lie, we have had his resume professionally done AND FOR FREE) How unscrupulous!!!

Then he began his bit about about their "client services". Now, it took him awhile to actually admit the client is actually the job seeker, not an actual employer and only did so after asking him point blank.

Chandler Hill, in my opinion, is very deceptive, deceitful and even immoral how they advertise.

To have people that are really NEEDING a job and NEEDING an income for their families just to make it; get very excited about a job lead just to have them get you in and try to take your money (if you even have any b/c the $320.00 a week on unemployment won't even cover a mortgage payment)

All of this being said, if anyone from Chandler Hill is reading this, I just hope at some point you realize how deplorable and cruel your tactics are. It's a wonder you can sleep at night.

Matt
Mon, 06/18/2007 - 2:01pm

Never pay a fee up front for a recruiter, agent, or anything of that kind. Once you pay the fee, where is their motivation to find you a job? What's the difference between Chandler Hill's "client database" and any other recruiter's? (Hint: None.) Chandler Hill also likes to say that they don't represent just anyone. I'd like to know, has anyone out there ever been turned down by Chandler Hill? Doubt it.

SP Klienz
Wed, 08/01/2007 - 7:58pm

I am surprised and shocked at some of the comments here about Chandler Hill Partners!

I solicited their services after actively pursuing a job to replace one in which I was downsized after a 6 months of no real movement or activity. They put me through a process that I felt beneficial to open up a realm of possibilities in my career focus that I had not even considered.

Through their program, I met a Technology Engineer for a large Telecom who ultimately refered me to his supervisor for a Sr. Networking position that I have secured!!

Mine has been a VERY positive experience.

Tue, 06/19/2007 - 12:22am

Here are some things that individuals are not aware of - In many states Firms that Charge the Employee/candidate the company Must be bonded. There are some states that will regulate many of the companies to protect the Vested interest in the Citizen from companies to make sure that what candidates are promise is recieved.

The FTC and BBB have some excellent article in regards to what candidates should be aware of when working with Employment Agencies.. One of the biggest things they suggest.. Don't pay for them to help you..
For more information Visit the Following Sites
http://www.bbb.org/Alerts/article.asp?ID=268
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/services/jobsffc.shtm

An example of a State that regulates these Firms -
employment agencies law NY State..
http://www.newyork.bbb.org/Default.aspx?pid=133#title7

The law also prohibits both licensed employment agencies and unlicensed fee-paid agencies from:

-directing an applicant to an employer in order to obtain employment without first having obtained a bona fide order for the job. One exception to this is that an agency may direct an applicant to an employer who has previously requested that qualified applicants be sent.
In the event that an applicant is referred to an employer who neither had a bona fide order for the job nor had requested that qualified applicants be sent, and the applicant does not obtain employment, the applicant is entitled to reimbursement for the travel expenses incurred within 24 hours of demanding it.

- sending an applicant to an employer where the agency knows or reasonably should have known that the employment is in violation of minimum wage or child labor laws or known that a labor dispute is in progress without having notified the applicant of the existence of the dispute.
requiring an applicant to subscribe to any publication or incidental service or contribute to the cost of advertising.

- making or using any name, sign or advertising device which bears a name similar to or which could be confused with that of any government agency.

The law also prohibits any licensed agency from:

- inducing an applicant to terminate current employment in order to obtain other employment from the employment agency.
- publishing any false, fraudulent or misleading information, representation, promise, notice or advertisement.
- advertising in newspapers, or otherwise, or using letterheads or other written material, unless such advertising or other matter contains the name and address of the employment agency and the word "agency".

- charging an applicant a fee for a job placement which the agency advertised as fee-paid.

The law prohibits an employer from:

requiring, requesting or permitting an employee to reimburse him for the cost of a fee paid by the employer to an employment agency or an employer fee-paid agency.

Karen Mattonen C.A.C, C.S.P
Recruiting Standards Resources
TEL: 858-668-3111
Email: contact@recruitingstandardsresources.com
Web: www.recruitingstandardsresources.com
Recruiting Standards Resources (RSR) is your training specialist.

Mon, 08/20/2007 - 10:49pm

I went today to TCMI for a interview I was given homework to do for a next day meeting. I will not be attending that meeting after readings these reviews. I only have 6 months of marketing experience and I was told that I was a good candiate for a Marketing Director position. What a Scam!

Anonymous
Wed, 08/08/2007 - 3:26am

I just got out of my first meeting with Chandler Hill. I've worked with recruiting firms in the past and was shocked when they expected me to pay them. I also noticed something a little funny... no one had any personal items in the offices. (No pictures, no stacks of papers anywhere, no golf clubs in the corner) Every office that I looked into appeared neat and tidy on the surface but upon further investigation, it looked like the decorations from a model home.

The man I spoke to, Gary Booth, dodged my questions with very panned answers and even had the audacity to show me an email on his computer about the number of responses one of the candidates was receiving. The funny thing was... the email was already qued up ready to go. How many emails to we get everyday... the chances of this one email being open is absurd.

Part of me wants to invoice this guy for the two and a half hours of my life that he wasted.

Please don't give this company any money. Oh, and by the way, they have a client satisfaction guarantee. It plainly states that "From time to time, you may be assigned a new Campaign Manager." I wonder why.

AA
Thu, 08/02/2007 - 6:29pm

Just had my second meeting with TCMI. Lots of stuff about networking and interviewing skills. Some of the pointers were really great. Asked me to give 6K upfront with a promise to get an interview and leads for a great job. I am not sure about giving them the money. If any body had a successful experience with TCMI, please Email me.

Anonymous
Thu, 07/19/2007 - 8:31pm

Just like to say thanks to all the replies here. After being contacted by Chandler Hill and setting up the initial 'interview', I decided to do some homework just in case - for fees in particular.

Sure enough, my gut instincts were right. Just canceled my appointment. Thanks all for saving me some time heading downtown.

Anonymous
Fri, 06/22/2007 - 3:17pm

Chandler Hill Atlanta - did the same, took our money (savings!) and we still have not found a job a year later!

Fri, 06/22/2007 - 4:06pm

Checkout ripoffreport.com and see what others have also been saying about Chandler Hill..

http://ripoffreport.com/searchresults.asp?q5=chandler%20hill&q1=ALL&q4=&q6=&q3=&q2=&q7=&searchtype=0&submit2=Search%21&Search=Search

Karen Mattonen C.A.C, C.S.P
Recruiting Standards Resources
TEL: 858-668-3111
Email: contact@recruitingstandardsresources.com
Web: www.recruitingstandardsresources.com
Recruiting Standards Resources (RSR) is your training specialist.

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