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It is interesting that there seems to be such a strong feeling that John Sumser is not the right guy for recruiting.com

To set the record straight, I had absolutely no input into the decision to hire John as an Editor. In fact, if I had to pick 10 people for the gig, I don’t think John would have been on the list. Not because I don’t respect him or think he is a smart guy but rather, he has never ever shown any interest in being an active participant on Recruiting.com. Plus people already read him and I would think his best stuff would be reserved for Interbiznet. That is his business.

Lets start from the beginning. When I started Recruiting.com, John was there as an active spectator often writing about the blog and the importance of blogging. I know he genuinely respected what was becoming of Recruiting.com and really only started to think poorly of it once Jobster made the change to Recruiting.com from a blog to a user generated site.

I remember back in Oct when John Sumser said:

“We don't really like the new offering. As we said earlier this week, we're in the stupid club on this one. That means that as hard as we try, we still don't get it.”

Here is the complete post. It’s a good read and accurately describes many things. Since Oct. there has been nothing that has taken place on recruiting.com that would bring John out of the stupid club. The site today operates exactly the same way as it did when John wrote that post.

John is a valuable asset to the recruiting community. Yes some may disagree with him but he serves the purpose and he serves it well. As an interested and willing participant in the recruiting blogosphere that he helped create he has always been vocal about his reluctance to participate. I think that is going to have to change in a big way if Recruiting.com is going to move forward.

But because of the domain name itself; Jobster is not limited to keeping Recruiting.com as is. I am sure if things don’t work out, Jobster will come up with a new plan for the domain name. The name itself is worth more today than a year ago.

I am not ready yet to say that John has no business being involved with Recruiting.com .I am not surprised that Jason G asked him, I am surprised that John agreed. Now that he has, my last request is that we all reserve judgment until a reasonable time has passed with John at the helm. Then, if we want to organize a boycott such that the world has never ever seen before, we can start the protest here in Toronto. Lunch will be on me.

Fri, 04/13/2007 - 3:29pm

Re the Ano comment -- It wasn't me. That's for sure, I have been signed in all week, and YOU guys Know that! You guys can track IP addresses.. and 'fer sure you guys talk relay this info back and forth

Anyways, after my fiasco where I "came out" from last anonymous post, don't post very much as an anonymous on Recruiting.com..

Karen Mattonen C.A.C, C.S.P
Recruiting Standards Resources
TEL: 858-668-3111
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Recruiting Standards Resources (RSR) is your training specialist.

Fri, 04/13/2007 - 2:36pm

Two points:

1. I didn't see much comment or compliant about Competition to replace Americas Job Bank published on Workforce.com (hat-tip Matt Martone)

2. WorkFarce is, I believe, the closest to the mark but missing the point perhaps. Recruiting.com has the potential to transcend the proprietary interests of Jobster or the hidden agendas of prominent personalities if the community of users get wise as to how to leverage it in their best interests. 

Hey, WorkFarce: Who owns the brand, "Recruiting.com?" Who constitutes the network that gravitates around Recruiting.com, and drives most of the "content?" Who understands better than we how to leverage social media to assert communal interests?

Daggit! Spilling my candy again... 

Fri, 04/13/2007 - 12:35pm

1. To the posting above. Who are you? 2. This is such an interesting topic that I am inviting Papa and Jay-Dee to be my guests on The Recruiting Animal Show to field questions about it -- if they want to. Tony Haley is the guest on April 18. But the following week is open. And, if the interest is there, we can do it anytime at all. As Workfarce says, I love you, The Recruiting Animal

Jason Gorham
Fri, 04/13/2007 - 2:05am

Just to clarify that Jason G is Jason Goldberg. Please don't confuse this with me.

Dave Mendoza
Fri, 04/13/2007 - 12:57am

Everyone who knows me understands that I rarely have an opinion, in fact, as everyone knows I have no opinion about Sumser, - what would he do or say that would provoke a reaction from me? In fact I will state for the record that John Sumser is very business savvy.

I of course wish John Sumser all the good fortune in the world, as I would never, ever initiate an unprovoked series of attacks upon him, never. What kind of person could ever unleash attacks against a lineup of peers we all respect? Who would ever do that? Surely only a Uniter could run this site effectively, and if we all know one thing about Sumser is that only he can unite people so vigorously, with so much passion, as his personality has long suggested.

In fact I am publicly inviting Papa Sumser, here and now, to my daughter's 1st year birthday Party. I mean what would a party be without John? It's on May 13th, hope you can make it to Denver.

I am sure John would agree with me, that life is simply too short.

Thu, 04/12/2007 - 10:48pm

Ok...

Sometimes poeple are right...sometimes wrong. This isn't ALL about Sumser. We all know that he is a strange man, riddled with socially akward mannerisms and a horrbly wrong method of approaching recruiting "journalism"....hell, I do too.

There are darker and more sinister undercurrents with the choice of Sumser the man...this ultimately, was a business decision.

one is left to ask how something so good like Recruiting.com could take such a weird and awful turn at the mere thought that the heir-apparent has the ability to singularly polarize the Recruit-o-sphere...its is a fulcrum point that will go down as a horrible mistake.

Jobster was not trying to make friends with this decision. Nor, were they trying to provide the users of the Jobster or Recruiting.com community VALUABLE content or a even a glad-handed smiling face to say, "I know I'm new here and I am willing to learn from all of you."

Goldberg could have picked any bastard with a heart full of hate and placed him/her at the helm of Recruiting.com, and the same groan would have shudddered the recruit-o-community.

I would never begin to speculate on what is ACTUALLY at work here, but there is certainly more to this decision than meets the eye.

Its not a wrong post about AJB (we all know he has been wrong many many times over the years)...its not about him being a jerk, as we all can be jerks...but what it IS about is that somewhere is a little man who owns the URL...and somewhere else is a man who has been inserted as the sheriff of that URL (and may possibly want to ultimately own the url?)...and in the middle there are us bloggers...some will leave...some will stay and cringe...and others will suckle the poison teat of John sumser...he had his shot messing up recruiting web 1.0...now he has a chance to mess up the blog-o-sphere.

Time will certainly tell on how the whole shake down will effect content on this site...we may just have to wait until he is no longer relevant (which is soon to come)and possibly find another site in the meantime

I love you,
WorkFarce

Thu, 04/12/2007 - 7:46pm

Carl, that comment was from John or Karen. The Marketing Headhunter is probably right. John is being boycotted because of an error about America's Job Board. But Anthony J Meaney, Jay-Dee and I "managed" Recruiting.com for a year and I don't think any one of us could have commented on America's Job Board. And, you know what: the blog grew really fast.

Thu, 04/12/2007 - 7:20pm

I like poker... and they are raising money for charity. Do you not like charity or something?

Restaurant Jobs | Restaurant Recruiters >> Blog | Web Services for Search Firms

Anonymous
Thu, 04/12/2007 - 5:23pm

Recruiting.com as it has been is a mess; almost totally useless except as an ego boost to some self-centred bloggers. Hopefully a new leader can turn it into a useful resource for recruiters (like ERE.net for example).

First suggestion: lose the voting
Second suggestion: total ban on posts about poker games.

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